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right now get ready panier yeah your

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welcome planet Earth the paying radio

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tonight is februari 15 2015 Sunday night

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that is the day after the lovers holiday

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I hope everybody had a spectacular

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Valentine's Day we watched a great

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little movie I don't know if you're in

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the kids movies but we watched one

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called the boxtrolls and it was actually

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a really cool little movie so be sure

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you check out a movie called the

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boxtrolls I'm here with my co-host can

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storage can how are you doing hey i am

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doing fine and it's good to be back on

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the air it's been what a two-week hiatus

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and it's only up actually I miss being

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on the radio it was it was uh you just

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it's kind of party every Sunday night I

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know I kind of get the itch in last week

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we got a little sick I'm thinking food

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poisoning because I didn't have your

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typical flu symptoms i mean this up and

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down fever but i was able able to eat

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everything and nothing else is wrong

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with me but thank God that that

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traumatic things over oh hey I've been

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there done that I've had a little touch

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of food poisoning myself in the past and

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it's not anything to you know to be

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bragging about it can be devastating can

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you got any shoutouts tonight I do I

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want to say hello to George and Patty

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and I want to have a special thanks to

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Lorna hunter with Allah pig Lorna

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appreciate all of your hard work and

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thanks for everything you do appreciate

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it you know that Rosie in England Rosie

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how you doing girl nice nice i got

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something I got a list of shout outs

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from facebook we got we got King Yvonne

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ski from hopeful New York Greg Watson

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from Bennington Vermont Bob King from

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Raleigh North Carolina we have James

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Miller from Rochester New York got some

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East Coasters listening tonight we also

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have Deborah Deborah Anderson out of

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duluth minnesota right across the lake

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pond from me here and a special

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shout-out to Jennifer Chelsea and Kevin

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Malik both listening in rhinelander

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Wisconsin they are the head of the north

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northern Wisconsin Paranormal Society so

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they're they're great people i listened

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to a show of theirs they do all their

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own little show now

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uh did went on demonology it was very

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interesting it was it was a few guys

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that I've actually had in my shell Gavin

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from his Gavin from Raven international

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paranormal and Jerry Williams who's a

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demonologist but boy that is some strain

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that's a dark side to get into I'll tell

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you that yeah no kidding there there's

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some negative energy there that's for

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sure demonology yeah oh yeah oh yeah so

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Ken tonight's show is going to be pretty

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good it's it's a it's a case that's

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intrigued me as a little kid I remember

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reading about it uh you know with Betty

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and Bob looka here this this and recent

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affair I mean they have basically been

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dealing with aliens on you no contact

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for years I mean and it's documented by

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you know jail and Hynek in Raymond

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Fowler and a book is written about it

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but this is going to be good show

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tonight yeah actually I'm looking really

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forward to it I I know a little bit

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about the case but I'm really looking

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forward to exploring in depth with our

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guest I think it I think our listeners

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are going to find this very interesting

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oh yeah and I in Betty and Bob were also

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on I believe they're on heidi hollis

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look I think about two months ago very

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very great people they were very

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flexible with us and you know we're able

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to come back on this week again so you

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don't get that with too many guests no

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you don't and I'm really appreciative

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that they were able to adjust their

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schedule to accommodate us given all the

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you know the interruptions and

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everything so yeah I'm looking forward

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to it it should be very very interesting

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you know what can let's get down to it

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let's go do it yeah let's do like sunny

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Pruitt let me get them pulled up here

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and we'll call them and they will be

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ready there we go and they are talking

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to us via the East Coast not sure what

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city but they're on the East Coast so

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nothing like the old live call oh yeah

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love it hello hey Betty this is MJ and

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Ken Storch from paying radio welcome to

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the show tonight hey Bob how you doing

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thank you for the thank you for the

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flexibility by the way no problem how

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you feeling omc

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great now I'm ready to go to night were

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really ready to dig in and listen to

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your story tonight are excellent

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excellent so you guys want to kind of

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give it give our listeners a little bit

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of background on on what you did and

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then what led up to the story if you

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would like to do that for listeners sure

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what would you like me to start yeah go

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ahead Betty ok well the injuries an

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affair book is out now a second run and

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what happened was and it happened in

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1967 and my ex-husband my husband at the

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time had had an accident with a car and

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he was hospitalized and because of it I

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have seven children and my mother and

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father came to stay with me to help out

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and it was the evening january 25th the

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lights were working the kids were

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watching television my mother father

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were in the living room and i was in and

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out of the kitchen to the living room

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and suddenly the lights went out in the

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there was a reddish orange light coming

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through the pantry window and wondering

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what in the world is going on unknown to

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me my father had passed by me and went

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into the pantry area to check what it

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was we were thinking oh maybe it's the

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police or the fire department was as

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reddish orange lights to be you know

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blinking and flashing into the kitchen

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into the living room and actually my

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father was the first one to see the

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beings coming into my home he was in the

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pantry we had like a half wall in pantry

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and he was where I could not see him and

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it's a window right there and he saw the

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beings coming down the hill and he said

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it looked like kids children in costumes

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like mula men and then what happened was

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they came into my house right into the

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kitchen right through the wooden door

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they did not open it they just came

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right through the wooden door so I was

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pretty amazed at what was going on and

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wondering what is this and I was trying

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to figure in my mind how did this happen

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and i just bought all scripture where it

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says entertain the strangers or it may

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be angels unaware and so that kind of

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made me feel a little better and i felt

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a little piece around me because of that

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because who are we to say what the

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angels are supposed to look like even

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though they they were great skinned

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about five feet and lodge heads with

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black dark eyes they were dressed in a

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blue uniform and so they stood there and

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they started to communicate with me and

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it was through the mind and I thought

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they were saying something they were

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hungry or needed something to eat or

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something and so I went in refrigerator

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got to meet and I put it in the frying

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pan put on the stove and I started to

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cook it and the leader of the taller one

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jumped back the thought of because the

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little smoke came up from the pan and he

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said no no no in my mind no no that

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isn't over looking for we're looking

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like for some knowledge tried by fire

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and I thought well what in the world

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because i have like that and the only

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thing i could think of was the Bible

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yeah Oh at that point he heard me that I

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have something maybe in the living room

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that might interest him we moved into

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the living room and the four of them

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were standing to the side as I said the

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other one went over by my father which I

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was unaware of and at that point I

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reached down from the end table and I

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took the Bible and I passed it to the

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leader and he said his name was kraska

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and when he reached out his hand I could

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see he had three fingers and he put his

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other hand up waved it over the Bible

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and three smaller books appeared and he

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passed them to the three that were

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standing by him and they held them in

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the hand

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and they didn't even have to turn the

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pages they just flipped by and it seemed

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like white light was in there I couldn't

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see any print at all just pages of white

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light flipping by and it seemed as if

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they were consuming whatever it was

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through their eyes at that point I saw

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my mother and fought my mother I should

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say and the children on the couch and I

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was worried because they look like they

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were in a state of suspended animation

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I'm wondering what in the world is going

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on well he must have felt or saw that I

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was at that you know seeing that my

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children and my mother was not moving so

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he took my daughter Becky out for

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briefly and she stood up from the couch

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and was standing there and just looking

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didn't seem as if she could move very

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much but she was watching what was going

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on and at that point he gave me a thin

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blue book and when he passed it to me he

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says this is something like an

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initiation and I was allowed to keep it

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for 10 days and try and grasp as much as

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I possibly could about what was in that

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pen book at that point we moved out of

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the living room I evidently put the thin

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blue book back down excuse me on the end

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table we moved into the kitchen and we

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moved right out of the door through

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through the wooden heavy wooden kitchen

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door out into the backyard and we stood

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there off to the left was a craft hit on

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just a slight hill in the back of the

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yard and when we stood there he raised

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his hand the leader raised his hand and

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when he did he made the lower part of

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the craft of tear transparent so I could

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see what was underneath it he must have

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done it on purpose for me to see what

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the machine was about because i saw the

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large huge crystal balls that had this

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metallic stem that came down and grasped

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onto the ball bottom

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off and then there was a smaller ball

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crystal ball cut crystal this was on the

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top and then there was an amateur that

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came out of the stem and it had a sort

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of a wheel like crystal wheel on it and

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there was like a tube that circled the

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three different fun whatever they were

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motors or whatever I don't know exactly

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what they were but I I could see all of

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this going on after that he took his

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hand down put his hand down and I was

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bora brought aboard the craft and i had

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to wait there at the first room small

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room at first for a while and after a

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while they came back for me and they

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brought me into an upper room and the

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place look bigger I couldn't I couldn't

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understand how can this be so big when I

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could see the craft didn't seem that big

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and they brought me up into an upper

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room and I was there for briefly and

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looking around it that the different

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things that were there they then brought

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me back down into another room and in

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this room on the leader who citizen he

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was Klaus gar told me that they were

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going to measure me for light and so I

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thought well okay measuring the light

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isn't bad and so they took me into the

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room well first of all they had i had to

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go into a cleansing area and then also

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had to change into a robe a small rope

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that they had me go into this changing

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room and then they took me into the room

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to measure me for light and when i lay

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on the table they use sort of like a fan

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like thing that just moved up and down

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my body and then the leaders said well

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we're going to have to measure you

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physically and I talked like no used to

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just measure me for

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nice as well there is something in back

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of the knee now whatever it was I have

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no idea it might have just been an

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excuse but anyway they decided that they

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were going to measure me physically and

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at that particular point what they did

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was they were checking me for

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procreation and what happened was they

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used a needle I had a long tube earth

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like pipe or what have you call it was a

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needle on the end and they thrust it in

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my navel and it was painful at first but

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he put his hand on my forehead and it

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took away most of the pain but I could

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feel it moving around all through my

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lower part of my body and suddenly

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stopped and the other two beings that

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were in it came over to him and they

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unrolled some type of material and we're

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looking at this whatever it was and then

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the leader class car came to me and said

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there was something missing and so I

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knew what he was talking about because I

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had had a hysterectomy and at that point

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they went through the needle and they

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had to do just one more thing and that

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was they thrust a needle into my left

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nostril and again he put his hand on my

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forehead to take away a lot of that pain

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that I felt and he would drew the needle

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and it was like a BB like thing on the

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end of it with little tiny points on the

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tall beads like BB at the end of the

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needle and at that point then I was

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taken off the table brought in to change

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and also to be cleansed again then they

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took me into another area and in this

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area it was sort of its had to explain

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in the same area that was like

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something that came out of the wall it

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was like a square thing that came out of

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the wall and it looked like they were

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honeycomb things all around the outside

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with these long loop stems long stems

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with glass or crystal on the end of each

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interior of the honeycomb things and I

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think it had something to do with how

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the ship was being run evidently at that

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point then they took me into another

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room and oh and by the way there was the

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beings that had first checked me they

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had changed and come into the room and

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had silver suits on and two of those

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beings came with me when I was going

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into this other room and I could see

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often the left-hand side they was sort

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of like a rounded elevators I don't know

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what it was but it seemed like a rounded

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elevator off to the right then it was

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brought into this other room and in this

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other room it was sort of like a Quonset

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hut type room it was lit up they were

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about eight years on 84 to the left and

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four to the right and they put me in one

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off to the left and they gave me some

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sweet liquid to drink and also had

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things in my nose when the pot came down

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and I could feel it stopped to fill up

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with some kind of liquid and that went

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on for briefly I had to just sit there

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and I was afraid it was going to drown

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with what was coming into the chair but

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it was enclosed and I was enclosed in it

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after that it stopped and been drained

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and I was taken out of that chair and I

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was taken down to well i think i was at

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that point i still a little damp and so

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they had set me in another

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chair where they had this light coming

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down and and it dragged me off very

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quickly and then but there were two

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beings there and they were dressed in

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silver suit someone got in front of me

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one in back of me and black track ran

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through this Quonset hut type room and

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we just stood on it and it just moved

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along we didn't have to move at all it

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was just moving on its own we went

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through a door and into like a cave it

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was I could tell it was a cave because

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it was so dark the beings the two beams

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with me also put some black hoods over

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their head so when we went in the air on

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what like there was it looked just like

398
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silver suits you know and once not one

399
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in back of me and what reflection there

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was I could see there were other

401
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entrances much darker entrances in this

402
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hallway in different spots and we were

403
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just moving along on this track and as

404
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we moved it along on this track we kept

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on going and we came up to something

406
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looked like a mirror and it seems like

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there was a reddish glow and we went

408
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right through the mirror it was just

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like when they came through the wooden

410
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door when they first came to the house

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we went right through the mirror into a

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red atmosphere and in this red

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atmosphere they were buildings no

414
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vegetation whatsoever but they were

415
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buildings and browned and there were

416
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these strange creatures in there and

417
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they were bright red and they had a

418
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funny talk to them over the head it was

419
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like two stocks that came out at the

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neck area and at the end of these stocks

421
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were these black eyes and they were

422
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crawling all over the building and

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sitting in some of the open windows and

424
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on the ground as well but they didn't

425
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touch us and as we went through there

426
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the two beings on their front one and

427
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back kept those foots on black hood

428
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and I guess they needed it to go through

429
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there because and didn't provide one for

430
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me evidently they saw I thought my doc

431
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here was enough to protect me or

432
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:52,399
whatever and so we continued along the

433
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track and up ahead I could see a

434
00:22:02,080 --> 00:21:59,359
swirling motion going on and it was

435
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still red but it was changing like red

436
00:22:07,239 --> 00:22:05,359
with green red with green and then all

437
00:22:09,729 --> 00:22:07,249
of a sudden we just went through that I

438
00:22:12,940 --> 00:22:09,739
don't know if it was an energy door or

439
00:22:16,749 --> 00:22:12,950
whatever we just was still on the track

440
00:22:19,659 --> 00:22:16,759
and it was very stable if we went

441
00:22:22,769 --> 00:22:19,669
through the good the door or whatever it

442
00:22:26,109 --> 00:22:22,779
was the energy door circular thing and

443
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we're just moving along and we entered

444
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an area that was green atmosphere and

445
00:22:37,450 --> 00:22:34,070
we're just on this track but I look down

446
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and I could see it was green I like a

447
00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:40,639
green ocean green water underneath us

448
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:44,230
way below and we're just moving along

449
00:22:50,259 --> 00:22:47,090
with the beings and one in front one in

450
00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:50,269
back of me and I looked off to the side

451
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I could say something that looked like

452
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us I don't know if it was like a plane

453
00:23:00,279 --> 00:22:57,080
what it looked like a sort of like a

454
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fish but big huge thing and it was like

455
00:23:08,289 --> 00:23:04,749
flying in midair we continued on this

456
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black track and if the atmosphere was

457
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all bright green and as we moved along I

458
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could look to the left and I saw like a

459
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city and it had domes clear domes and

460
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pinnacles or whatever he called him that

461
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:23,659
pointed things that came up and there

462
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were these black tracks that ran all

463
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through that city whatever it looked

464
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like a city to me anyway maybe it wasn't

465
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I don't really know but it was on some

466
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land and the water was close to it and

467
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as we moved along on this track we

468
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passed that city area to the left and as

469
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we started to go a little further I saw

470
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on the ground

471
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there was a three-sided pyramid and it

472
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had a head on top of it and the head to

473
00:24:06,820 --> 00:24:02,960
me looked like an Egyptian head with a

474
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Gyptian headdress face and it was just

475
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sitting on top of a three-sided pyramid

476
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but this pyramid was strange because it

477
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was flat in the front and then it

478
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indented a little and then went to the

479
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point and indented and went to the point

480
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to the back so I I thought it was like

481
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three-sided pyramid and on the edges was

482
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white whereas the rest was a reddish

483
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brown and as I said that that head was

484
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on top of it and it looked the Egyptian

485
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and I was shocked because during a

486
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lecture and I was telling of what had

487
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happened and what I saw a person handed

488
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me of gave me a magazine where I guess

489
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it was hobbling was explaining about on

490
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cars there was a face yeah actually how

491
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that that the head looked exactly like

492
00:25:01,000 --> 00:24:58,730
that faith name headdress and everything

493
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:01,010
Wow well I was I was going to check in

494
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Ken did you have any questions for ya i

495
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do i just cleansing what didn't what did

496
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:09,800
that entail I mean did they give you a

497
00:25:14,170 --> 00:25:12,110
bath or was it liquid what made you

498
00:25:18,130 --> 00:25:14,180
think that it was a cleansing room it

499
00:25:20,830 --> 00:25:18,140
was like it was late it was like a round

500
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thing that I had to step up on and the

501
00:25:28,540 --> 00:25:23,930
light straight down on me and that's all

502
00:25:30,490 --> 00:25:28,550
it was it was no liquid I couldn't smell

503
00:25:33,220 --> 00:25:30,500
anything different was there any

504
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sensation a tingling or anything to

505
00:25:38,980 --> 00:25:35,330
indicate that something was changing

506
00:25:41,740 --> 00:25:38,990
about your appearance or your body well

507
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it was just the whole thing was so

508
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:44,420
strange to me it would you know at each

509
00:25:49,870 --> 00:25:47,510
time there were different feelings that

510
00:25:53,310 --> 00:25:49,880
I felt because there was so much going

511
00:25:55,870 --> 00:25:53,320
on they just kept me moving constantly

512
00:25:59,320 --> 00:25:55,880
doing one thing to the next to the next

513
00:26:02,649 --> 00:25:59,330
to the next so it was kind of odd that

514
00:26:10,029 --> 00:26:05,649
everything was when they put the needle

515
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in my navel but as I said that we need

516
00:26:13,570 --> 00:26:11,690
to put his hand on my go ahead and took

517
00:26:16,060 --> 00:26:13,580
away a great deal to the pain and then

518
00:26:18,369 --> 00:26:16,070
when they thrust the needle into my left

519
00:26:22,919 --> 00:26:18,379
nostril and pulled out that BB like

520
00:26:25,989 --> 00:26:22,929
thing that that that hurt at first yes

521
00:26:27,789 --> 00:26:25,999
Betty this is MJ now did you have a

522
00:26:29,589 --> 00:26:27,799
sense that the if when you were brought

523
00:26:31,869 --> 00:26:29,599
in a ship that the ship was moving or

524
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:31,879
did you feel that you were taking off

525
00:26:38,979 --> 00:26:33,769
planet Earth what was your thought on

526
00:26:43,239 --> 00:26:38,989
that I I was just so surprised surprised

527
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:43,249
okay really I really couldn't tell if we

528
00:26:47,950 --> 00:26:45,049
were moving because I was being

529
00:26:49,779 --> 00:26:47,960
transported from one kind of being one

530
00:26:53,139 --> 00:26:49,789
place to another but I couldn't really

531
00:26:55,810 --> 00:26:53,149
tell that you know although the things

532
00:26:59,889 --> 00:26:55,820
were changing constantly sure hey hey

533
00:27:01,719 --> 00:26:59,899
Betty you described they had three

534
00:27:03,369 --> 00:27:01,729
fingers on their hands was there any

535
00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:03,379
other characteristics about these

536
00:27:10,210 --> 00:27:06,799
entities that did that you remember what

537
00:27:13,210 --> 00:27:10,220
they look like yeah they had graced and

538
00:27:17,259 --> 00:27:13,220
lodge bulbous heads and they had really

539
00:27:20,649 --> 00:27:17,269
black eyes stock eyes and they had two

540
00:27:23,889 --> 00:27:20,659
suits on tight fitted blue suits and

541
00:27:27,399 --> 00:27:23,899
they had an emblem of it looked like a

542
00:27:31,659 --> 00:27:27,409
bird but a sort of like an eagle with

543
00:27:34,210 --> 00:27:31,669
small wings though downward and on the

544
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emblem and then they had a belch and

545
00:27:40,259 --> 00:27:36,769
they had a fashion it went across their

546
00:27:43,509 --> 00:27:40,269
chest as well and then they had boots on

547
00:27:45,489 --> 00:27:43,519
okay Betty Betty and Bob it's time for

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our first break just hang in there

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everybody to paying radio tonight we

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have on Betty andreasson Luca ba and Bob

602
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:10,070
Luca talking about the end recent affair

603
00:31:16,300 --> 00:31:14,000
and ongoing contact with the an alien

604
00:31:19,090 --> 00:31:16,310
race on the break we had a good

605
00:31:20,890 --> 00:31:19,100
discussion about part of her first

606
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:20,900
experience and we got a good question in

607
00:31:25,270 --> 00:31:22,610
chat to hear for you Betty so it kind of

608
00:31:27,850 --> 00:31:25,280
relates to what Ken was talking about on

609
00:31:29,980 --> 00:31:27,860
break too does Betty think that the

610
00:31:32,170 --> 00:31:29,990
removal of the BB like implant from her

611
00:31:34,570 --> 00:31:32,180
left nostril indicates a previous visit

612
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:34,580
or implementation so Betty do you think

613
00:31:37,180 --> 00:31:35,810
that that there was something in your

614
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:37,190
nose that they removes and they have

615
00:31:45,220 --> 00:31:40,810
visited you before that first experience

616
00:31:49,420 --> 00:31:45,230
okay regressive hypnosis there were

617
00:31:53,020 --> 00:31:49,430
three young childhood experiences and

618
00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:53,030
the third one at 13 years old they put

619
00:32:00,130 --> 00:31:56,240
an implant in within me they removed my

620
00:32:01,930 --> 00:32:00,140
eye and again he put his hand on my

621
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:01,940
forehead to take away a great deal of

622
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:05,510
pain but that was difficult hmm hey

623
00:32:11,950 --> 00:32:08,000
Betty was it do you think it was the

624
00:32:15,910 --> 00:32:11,960
same individual when you were 13 as it

625
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:15,920
was when you and Bob were abducted do

626
00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:17,450
you think was the same individual in the

627
00:32:24,940 --> 00:32:22,190
same crew I guess is what I'm asking but

628
00:32:27,970 --> 00:32:24,950
I'm sure they all knew what was going on

629
00:32:30,940 --> 00:32:27,980
they were there were some smaller ones

630
00:32:33,310 --> 00:32:30,950
during when I was 13 and picked up on

631
00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:33,320
the moonship they were smaller beings

632
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:36,080
and and there were different things that

633
00:32:43,139 --> 00:32:38,570
happened during that encounter with I

634
00:32:46,109 --> 00:32:43,149
did receive the implant with in my eye

635
00:32:48,060 --> 00:32:46,119
but from the time you were 13 until the

636
00:32:49,859 --> 00:32:48,070
time you were an adult you had no idea

637
00:32:51,450 --> 00:32:49,869
that and this is what we were talking

638
00:32:53,909 --> 00:32:51,460
about during the break you had no idea

639
00:32:57,659 --> 00:32:53,919
that there that you had an implant is

640
00:33:01,469 --> 00:32:57,669
that correct see the thing is it started

641
00:33:06,180 --> 00:33:01,479
with where I sent the information to dr.

642
00:33:08,129 --> 00:33:06,190
Hynek and this was years later he had a

643
00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:08,139
thing in the newspaper or anything

644
00:33:14,190 --> 00:33:10,089
unusual that had happen like that so I

645
00:33:15,989 --> 00:33:14,200
thought I just recalled just of the

646
00:33:19,379 --> 00:33:15,999
things that happen because they place a

647
00:33:24,659 --> 00:33:19,389
block on your mind but the thing was I

648
00:33:26,339 --> 00:33:24,669
recalled a one being and you know what

649
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:26,349
he looked like and everything and it

650
00:33:30,329 --> 00:33:28,330
troubled me because we had moved then we

651
00:33:32,369 --> 00:33:30,339
had moved to a different place we had

652
00:33:34,829 --> 00:33:32,379
built in her own home and everything it

653
00:33:37,889 --> 00:33:34,839
was still troubling me wondering what in

654
00:33:40,259 --> 00:33:37,899
the world was that that happened and so

655
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:40,269
when I saw that article by dr. J Allen

656
00:33:44,879 --> 00:33:42,609
Hynek I thought I'll send this

657
00:33:47,099 --> 00:33:44,889
information maybe they can figure it out

658
00:33:49,619 --> 00:33:47,109
and I thought relief I felt here's a

659
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:49,629
learning man he will be able to

660
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:52,210
understand what that was that came into

661
00:33:58,039 --> 00:33:55,450
my house you know and so but it wasn't

662
00:34:00,690 --> 00:33:58,049
till three years later that an

663
00:34:03,570 --> 00:34:00,700
investigative team from Massachusetts

664
00:34:08,669 --> 00:34:03,580
wanted to find out if anybody had any

665
00:34:12,059 --> 00:34:08,679
him encounters with humanoids they wrote

666
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:12,069
to dr. Hynek and he in turn would he had

667
00:34:17,069 --> 00:34:13,839
it there for three years the letter that

668
00:34:18,809 --> 00:34:17,079
I sent and he would rue it and he sent

669
00:34:21,629 --> 00:34:18,819
it to them they got in touch with me

670
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:21,639
asked me if I would be willing to

671
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:24,399
undergo regressive hypnosis because all

672
00:34:30,180 --> 00:34:28,510
I had at that point was the being when

673
00:34:36,510 --> 00:34:30,190
he looked like with the big eyes a great

674
00:34:38,730 --> 00:34:36,520
skin the big head and so they wanted to

675
00:34:42,990 --> 00:34:38,740
see if I'd be willing to undergo that

676
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:43,000
now I want and I did undergo that for

677
00:34:48,419 --> 00:34:46,690
the 1967 encounter but then they wanted

678
00:34:52,859 --> 00:34:48,429
to research and see if there was any

679
00:34:54,899 --> 00:34:52,869
earlier encounters so they put me

680
00:34:57,290 --> 00:34:54,909
through regressive hypnosis and there

681
00:35:03,930 --> 00:34:57,300
were three earlier encounter

682
00:35:07,470 --> 00:35:03,940
very interesting hey Betty when did you

683
00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:07,480
have any type of physical examination

684
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:13,030
after these beings removed the object

685
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:15,280
from your left nostril I mean did you go

686
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:17,650
to a doctor afterwards because of any

687
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:19,930
bleeding or any injuries that you may

688
00:35:27,870 --> 00:35:24,850
have sustained I didn't I think they put

689
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:27,880
a block on me because of me don't forget

690
00:35:34,890 --> 00:35:30,850
I had seven children I had a lot of work

691
00:35:36,780 --> 00:35:34,900
to do take care of the kids and my

692
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:36,790
husband was in the hospital my mother

693
00:35:43,050 --> 00:35:38,770
and father did I come to stay with me

694
00:35:45,660 --> 00:35:43,060
briefly but you know it was winter it

695
00:35:47,460 --> 00:35:45,670
was I had to drive and snow and

696
00:35:50,970 --> 00:35:47,470
everything in Massachusetts you know how

697
00:35:55,710 --> 00:35:50,980
that is to go and visit him and he had

698
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:55,720
like he had a bad accident so he had to

699
00:36:01,110 --> 00:35:58,290
be in the hospital for quite a while

700
00:36:04,970 --> 00:36:01,120
Betty after you got back from this first

701
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:04,980
experience how did your family react uh

702
00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:08,250
did they realize that they had been

703
00:36:14,370 --> 00:36:11,230
suspended animation or did they recall

704
00:36:18,540 --> 00:36:14,380
any of you know the aliens coming in the

705
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:18,550
room well the thing is 1967 encounter

706
00:36:27,450 --> 00:36:24,370
those lead researchers asked if you know

707
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:27,460
if my father would be willing to talk

708
00:36:33,150 --> 00:36:30,610
with them you know he didn't want to he

709
00:36:36,540 --> 00:36:33,160
don't want to say anything because um of

710
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:36,550
what he saw even though he was there so

711
00:36:39,930 --> 00:36:38,320
the lights go out he saw the beings

712
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:39,940
coming into the house and the boom that

713
00:36:47,130 --> 00:36:43,450
was it he recalled and I told him I said

714
00:36:49,980 --> 00:36:47,140
daddy you know I I remember some of that

715
00:36:52,380 --> 00:36:49,990
stuff this is when I had gone through

716
00:36:54,420 --> 00:36:52,390
regressive hypnosis and I said I

717
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:54,430
remember both things with the beings and

718
00:36:59,010 --> 00:36:56,530
everything and I said I need support to

719
00:37:01,890 --> 00:36:59,020
and if you saw them or you please tell

720
00:37:04,260 --> 00:37:01,900
them and he was worried about it social

721
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:04,270
security because my parents would

722
00:37:08,070 --> 00:37:05,920
retired and living on their social

723
00:37:10,650 --> 00:37:08,080
security he was afraid the government

724
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:10,660
would take this Social Security away

725
00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:13,570
something over there and of course if it

726
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:16,510
was people that wanted to know what was

727
00:37:20,370 --> 00:37:18,400
going on and everything they go after

728
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:20,380
the man before they go after a young

729
00:37:26,190 --> 00:37:23,650
woman with seven children hey Betty and

730
00:37:28,110 --> 00:37:26,200
you you you you brought up something

731
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:28,120
that was one of the questions I wrote

732
00:37:36,450 --> 00:37:31,930
down and that is during this whole time

733
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:36,460
and since have you had any official

734
00:37:40,860 --> 00:37:39,010
contact from anybody that represented

735
00:37:43,890 --> 00:37:40,870
themselves as being part of the

736
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:43,900
government or any type of officialdom in

737
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:48,970
regards to what transpired I can't go

738
00:37:52,590 --> 00:37:50,770
the information there but we've gone

739
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:52,600
through some terrible things because I

740
00:37:58,410 --> 00:37:55,570
think the government just tracking us

741
00:38:02,030 --> 00:37:58,420
following us in our mail on the

742
00:38:04,050 --> 00:38:02,040
telephone a lot of things we have gone

743
00:38:05,970 --> 00:38:04,060
helicopters coming over black

744
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:05,980
helicopters do you think do you think

745
00:38:11,220 --> 00:38:09,280
they they be in you know black ops or

746
00:38:19,650 --> 00:38:11,230
some subversive part of the government

747
00:38:22,140 --> 00:38:19,660
was was tracking you also okay yeah we

748
00:38:25,980 --> 00:38:22,150
can we even had a miscommunication on

749
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:25,990
the show Bob checked his email and never

750
00:38:32,250 --> 00:38:27,760
got we never got responses back and

751
00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:32,260
forth and radio shows yeah the show

752
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:36,400
their show just somehow they disappeared

753
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:39,280
but I can tell you about that good light

754
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:41,170
yeah Bob Bob what's going on with all

755
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:43,090
this this craziness with your emails

756
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:45,040
disappearing in Wiegel what we are we're

757
00:38:48,180 --> 00:38:46,720
privileged to get you on the air because

758
00:38:50,910 --> 00:38:48,190
not many shows have had you that's

759
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:50,920
that's awesome go ahead Bob only not

760
00:38:58,220 --> 00:38:53,290
only has my many of my emails

761
00:39:00,900 --> 00:38:58,230
disappeared but I actually caught two

762
00:39:04,860 --> 00:39:00,910
officers of the Department of Defense in

763
00:39:08,340 --> 00:39:04,870
my computer one was the United States

764
00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:08,350
Navy space weapons systems division and

765
00:39:15,930 --> 00:39:11,560
the other within 48 hours was the United

766
00:39:17,970 --> 00:39:15,940
States Army National Guard and I had

767
00:39:20,660 --> 00:39:17,980
been working as a computer technician I

768
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:20,670
had some good software in my computer I

769
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:23,650
caught them both I got the physical

770
00:39:29,340 --> 00:39:24,400
address

771
00:39:33,060 --> 00:39:29,350
computer the day the date the time the

772
00:39:35,220 --> 00:39:33,070
computer ID and I wrote to the

773
00:39:39,530 --> 00:39:35,230
department of defense and I got a letter

774
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:39,540
back from the United States Army

775
00:39:46,890 --> 00:39:43,920
inspector general stating it was in fact

776
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:46,900
those two computers the Navy in the army

777
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:51,040
that hacked into my computer so I asked

778
00:39:56,850 --> 00:39:53,530
why I was promised an investigation

779
00:39:58,980 --> 00:39:56,860
would be done not only it was not done

780
00:40:01,290 --> 00:39:58,990
but I have written this has been a few

781
00:40:04,770 --> 00:40:01,300
years now I have filed Freedom of

782
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:04,780
Information requests on them Israel well

783
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:09,250
as recently as 2013 and 2014 they keep

784
00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:11,680
ducking the situation saying they can't

785
00:40:16,530 --> 00:40:14,830
find any documentation even though I

786
00:40:19,110 --> 00:40:16,540
gave him the case number they gave me

787
00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:19,120
the day the date the time computer IDs

788
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:22,480
and so forth so I finally went to i

789
00:40:26,610 --> 00:40:24,400
wrote the United States Attorney General

790
00:40:28,650 --> 00:40:26,620
and I said even if i don't get the

791
00:40:30,540 --> 00:40:28,660
information i requested this is an

792
00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:30,550
illegal act and i want your office to

793
00:40:35,550 --> 00:40:33,910
investigate it um which you know they're

794
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:35,560
going to fluff me off I mean they're not

795
00:40:40,260 --> 00:40:37,330
going to give me answers right but at

796
00:40:42,330 --> 00:40:40,270
least I've generated some paperwork and

797
00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:42,340
I have proof that they actually did

798
00:40:47,850 --> 00:40:44,950
break into my computer and this isn't

799
00:40:50,340 --> 00:40:47,860
like a one-time deal there's been times

800
00:40:53,460 --> 00:40:50,350
on one occasion I turned on the computer

801
00:40:56,490 --> 00:40:53,470
and before I could hit the keyboard I

802
00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:56,500
just watched a whole series of print

803
00:41:01,170 --> 00:40:59,440
disappear from my screen they have

804
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:01,180
removed things that I had in the

805
00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:05,290
computer but the thing is what they

806
00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:09,730
might want it's not in my computer it

807
00:41:14,850 --> 00:41:12,640
doesn't matter how people home how long

808
00:41:16,290 --> 00:41:14,860
they exam we have another computer to

809
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:16,300
other computers in the house that are

810
00:41:22,020 --> 00:41:19,690
not online so they're not going to get

811
00:41:25,650 --> 00:41:22,030
at those the other thing this stuff

812
00:41:30,860 --> 00:41:25,660
really got intense once the first book

813
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:30,870
came out the helicopters were military

814
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:35,440
mostly Hugh you H ones and Blackhawks

815
00:41:40,109 --> 00:41:38,319
they were all black there were no number

816
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:40,119
is no markings which is illegal

817
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:41,680
according to Federal Aviation

818
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:45,130
Regulations I had chased after them for

819
00:41:49,019 --> 00:41:46,930
several years I've got hundreds of

820
00:41:52,109 --> 00:41:49,029
pictures of them but the interesting

821
00:41:55,279 --> 00:41:52,119
thing is since the FAA the army the Navy

822
00:41:57,779 --> 00:41:55,289
the Air Force helicopter manufacturers

823
00:41:58,979 --> 00:41:57,789
nobody could tell me whose helicopters

824
00:42:01,709 --> 00:41:58,989
these were even though i had the

825
00:42:05,370 --> 00:42:01,719
photographs and i was at the time taking

826
00:42:08,699 --> 00:42:05,380
lessons for my pilot's license so I had

827
00:42:10,949 --> 00:42:08,709
the approximate altitude I had the

828
00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:10,959
compass heading the day to date the time

829
00:42:15,569 --> 00:42:12,910
all that stuff no one could tell me

830
00:42:17,729 --> 00:42:15,579
whose helicopters there were so I sent a

831
00:42:20,789 --> 00:42:17,739
photograph to Bell Helicopter out in

832
00:42:23,789 --> 00:42:20,799
Texas I got in touch with a man named

833
00:42:26,339 --> 00:42:23,799
dick Tipton and he was there public

834
00:42:28,289 --> 00:42:26,349
relations person I sent him a picture

835
00:42:30,569 --> 00:42:28,299
one of the helicopters and he sent me

836
00:42:33,529 --> 00:42:30,579
back a letter which i still have and

837
00:42:36,329 --> 00:42:33,539
that letter stated that this particular

838
00:42:39,209 --> 00:42:36,339
helicopter was built by Bell Helicopter

839
00:42:41,819 --> 00:42:39,219
but it did not leave their facility in

840
00:42:44,279 --> 00:42:41,829
the condition it was in he stated flatly

841
00:42:47,999 --> 00:42:44,289
that this helicopter had been modified

842
00:42:50,759 --> 00:42:48,009
by the Air Force for psychological

843
00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:50,769
warfare and was a type that was used in

844
00:42:59,640 --> 00:42:54,880
Vietnam so why they're flying over a

845
00:43:03,359 --> 00:42:59,650
house number one that was witnessed over

846
00:43:06,779 --> 00:43:03,369
our house by newspaper reporters police

847
00:43:09,989 --> 00:43:06,789
officers neighbors and these flights

848
00:43:13,259 --> 00:43:09,999
sometimes federal regulation says the

849
00:43:16,140 --> 00:43:13,269
helicopter has to be 500 feet laterally

850
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:16,150
from a building well they went directly

851
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:18,160
over our house at times I think the

852
00:43:25,279 --> 00:43:20,609
lowest flight was approximately 75 feet

853
00:43:28,529 --> 00:43:25,289
hmm oh that's pretty yeah waiting but

854
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:28,539
what they didn't count on was I have a

855
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:31,569
sense of humor so we thought we'd have a

856
00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:34,089
little fun with these guys a friend of

857
00:43:39,689 --> 00:43:35,529
mine at work had been in the military

858
00:43:43,469 --> 00:43:39,699
and he built me an exact replica full

859
00:43:46,410 --> 00:43:43,479
size of a surface-to-air missile so we

860
00:43:48,989 --> 00:43:46,420
waited in Slough later one came of Hugh

861
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:48,999
uh-1 from the north side of our house we

862
00:43:51,870 --> 00:43:50,410
could hear it coming because they have a

863
00:43:54,690 --> 00:43:51,880
very distinctive rotor

864
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:54,700
lace so we went out the back of the

865
00:44:00,690 --> 00:43:56,650
house the south side and we set up this

866
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:00,700
missile and he was coming in well and I

867
00:44:06,210 --> 00:44:02,890
had flown over his our house so I knew

868
00:44:08,130 --> 00:44:06,220
what he was seeing he could not see the

869
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:08,140
actual missile until he cleared the roof

870
00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:10,960
of our house pretty much as he

871
00:44:16,799 --> 00:44:13,119
approached our house and got within

872
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:16,809
line-of-sight the helicopter turned

873
00:44:23,940 --> 00:44:20,890
sideways in other words we were looking

874
00:44:25,499 --> 00:44:23,950
at the bottom of it because it was in

875
00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:25,509
that shower pattern pulling away from

876
00:44:31,170 --> 00:44:27,599
the house it was an evasive maneuver and

877
00:44:32,999 --> 00:44:31,180
I we got a charge out my wife I said you

878
00:44:34,349 --> 00:44:33,009
know and i'll bet you that guys headed

879
00:44:36,059 --> 00:44:34,359
back to base and he's going to get

880
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